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Invincible
12th April 2003, 11:13 PM
I was just wondering if any importance was given to deaf people. Just because they're deaf doesnt make them dumb. They may not have the same confidence like we do, but Im pretty sure there are many of them are far more talented than us (sports, business, medicine etc).

How do you guys feel about this? anyone has family members who are deaf? Is there any organization for deaf people?

DukePhantom
12th April 2003, 11:31 PM
one of my aunt was born with complications later she ended to be deaf ... she just turned 18 .... she is basically exactly like any one else ... except that she mix sign language with some words you can barely understand .... she is very smart, loving, hard working person ... and sometimes I feel so sad, cuz ppl don't look at her that way ... although she is quite sane and fully grown ...

would u consider a deaf, blind, mime to be a handicapped ? cuz I sure can't see them that way ... I don't know why but I can't ... and yet ... she is treated like one !!! perhaps she should be treated like any person ... with a Foreign/different language !!!!

Dabdoob_Al_Helwa
12th April 2003, 11:32 PM
I agree with you invinci.
Def people are just like me and you...i used to know a girl who was def and she was very very intelligent. She used to paint pictures for me in order to express herself and I just recently heard from my parents that she is getting married in a couple of months time - I am very happy for her, she was a very close friend of mine even though communication was a pretty big problem.

Oh well, i believe there is a place in society for everyone <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

Dabdoob_Al_Helwa
12th April 2003, 11:35 PM
duke they are considered handicapped because for example, a blind person requires special needs..they cant read or write or walk on the street by themselves. def people similarily requires special needs so they can learn sign language <img src="/threads/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> and so they can learn how to speak and communicate with people.

Hey_U
13th April 2003, 02:44 AM
Just 3 days ago , in Dagistan, 28 deaf children died and more than 100 injured in an enboarding school when fire engulfed the school at around 4 a.m. local time.Deaf children couldn't hear the fire alarms , and the teachers had to go to every child and shake him/her to wake them up.They were forced to jump from second storey onto a mattress outside the building.



A very sad news. I hope they invent some other sort of fire alarms for deaf people.



regards

phatguy88
13th April 2003, 03:51 AM
not all crippled or blind or deaf people serve no purpose. one exception is a geniuos stephen hawking. he achieved all of this while in a wheelchair and talking using a computer!!!

Stephen William Hawking was born on 8 January 1942 (300 years after the death of Galileo) in Oxford, England. His parents' house was in north London, but during the second world war Oxford was considered a safer place to have babies. When he was eight, his family moved to St Albans, a town about 20 miles north of London. At eleven Stephen went to St Albans School, and then on to University College, Oxford, his father's old college. Stephen wanted to do Mathematics, although his father would have preferred medicine. Mathematics was not available at University College, so he did Physics instead. After three years and not very much work he was awarded a first class honours degree in Natural Science.

Stephen then went on to Cambridge to do research in Cosmology, there being no-one working in that area in Oxford at the time. His supervisor was Denis Sciama, although he had hoped to get Fred Hoyle who was working in Cambridge. After gaining his Ph.D. he became first a Research Fellow, and later on a Professorial Fellow at Gonville and Caius College. After leaving the Institute of Astronomy in 1973 Stephen came to the Department of Applied Mathematics and Theoretical Physics, and since 1979 has held the post of Lucasian Professor of Mathematics. The chair was founded in 1663 with money left in the will of the Reverend Henry Lucas, who had been the Member of Parliament for the University. It was first held by Isaac Barrow, and then in 1669 by Isaac Newton.

Stephen Hawking has worked on the basic laws which govern the universe. With Roger Penrose he showed that Einstein's General Theory of Relativity implied space and time would have a beginning in the Big Bang and an end in black holes. These results indicated it was necessary to unify General Relativity with Quantum Theory, the other great Scientific development of the first half of the 20th Century. One consequence of such a unification that he discovered was that black holes should not be completely black, but should emit radiation and eventually evaporate and disappear. Another conjecture is that the universe has no edge or boundary in imaginary time. This would imply that the way the universe began was completely determined by the laws of science.

His many publications include The Large Scale Structure of Spacetime with G F R Ellis, General Relativity: An Einstein Centenary Survey, with W Israel, and 300 Years of Gravity, with W Israel. Stephen Hawking has three popular books published; his best seller A Brief History of Time, Black Holes and Baby Universes and Other Essays and most recently in 2001, The Universe in a Nutshell. There are .pdf and .ps versions of his full publication list.

Professor Hawking has twelve honorary degrees, was awarded the CBE in 1982, and was made a Companion of Honour in 1989. He is the recipient of many awards, medals and prizes and is a Fellow of The Royal Society and a Member of the US National Academy of Sciences.
Stephen Hawking continues to combine family life (he has three children and one grandchild), and his research into theoretical physics together with an extensive programme of travel and public lecture

Jinan
13th April 2003, 07:40 AM
I have a cousin is who is deaf... she is way too smart for her age... there is one school that I know of which is called Al-Amal school and i think its located somewhere in Drasiat. Deaf people should be treated exactly like normal ones, they dont deserve to be differenciated in any way,

phatguy88
13th April 2003, 01:10 PM
unfortunately Jinan, they are. the reason some people think it is funny to cheat deaf people. whether it be money, a job etc. deaf poeple are humans and they should be treated like ones.

AL_NAAMANI
13th April 2003, 03:02 PM
I don't see deafness as a disability like blindness and madness.
I think all people with disabilities should be treated equally and be provided with the facilities to ensure their life is as good as normal.
I know this particular family that has a deaf child.I got the impression that they are ashamed of her.She does not go out and play with other kids.they keep her locked in the house.The mum says she does not want other kids to taunt her daughter cos it just kills her inside.So she would rather have her daughter stay in doors and not socialise with her age mates.
I find this very sad...cos this is worse..as the child will grow up feeling ashamed.

Sapphire
13th April 2003, 06:23 PM
Phatguy88

"not all crippled or blind or deaf people serve no purpose."

What kind of statement is that?

All people regardless of disability have a purpose in life regardless of whether they achieve great heights. If anything they have to work harder at life than you or I justs to be accepted.

Al Naamani

This country has really started to take note and action of the needs for the disabled and throw away the stigma of disabilities although it still has a long way to go.

As a mother you tend to wrap your children up in cotton wool to protect them from the rest of society who are, through no fault of their own, ignorant to the reasons a child has a disability.

Maybe this mother keeps her child locked in the house purely because she doesn't understand or have help to understand the reasons surrounding her daughters deafness and as you say this child without help and being kept away from others will grow up feeling ashamed.


What is available here in Oman for children who are either born deaf or go deaf at an early age? Are there trained people for this? Are their needs recognised?

phatguy88
14th April 2003, 05:36 AM
what i meant was few blind/deaf people give to the world like stephen hawking did. i didn't mean to offend anyone. if i did, i'm sorry.

Sapphire
14th April 2003, 06:43 PM
Phatguy88

All forgiven.

However, you would be surprised at how many children/adults who have disabilities excel in other areas.

I have seen countless documentaries on children who are autistic and have great ability in maths/numbers - Have you ever seen 'Rain Man'(Dustin Hoffman/Tom Cruise)?

There was one boy who had been taken on a sight seeing trip to London on an open top bus. His strong point was drawing. On his return he drew the Houses of Parliament and when it was checked against the buildings themselves he had drawn it exactly to scale, every single piece of detail was included and not a window missing. He had a photographic memory.

Another who was blind - never had a piano/singing lesson in his life - he sang like an angel and played a piano as if he had been playing for years.

We had a blind piano tuner at school because apparently his hearing for pitch was far superior because his ears were more responsive due to the fact that he had to hear what he could not see.

Your point above just goes to prove that just because someone is deaf/blind does not mean that that person is mentally challenged.

phatguy88
15th April 2003, 07:46 AM
i agree. many blind/deaf people do have talents.

wow, the kid drew everything to scale, now that takes talent!