We could destroy all European capitals

[shahada]

Israeli professor says;

<font color="red"> "It is clear by now that the West has created a monster which is now ready to bite off the head of its creators, and bragging about it in mainstream media!"
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Israeli professor says <font color="blue"> "We could destroy all European capitals"
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1 February, 2003 (IAP News)

An Israeli professor and military historian hinted that Israel could avenge the Holocaust by annihilating millions of Germans and other Europeans.

Speaking during an interview which was published in Jerusalem Friday, Professor Martin Van Creveld said Israel had the capability of hitting most European capitals with nuclear weapons.

"We possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets and can launch them at targets in all directions, perhaps even at Rome. Most European capitals are targets of our air force."
Creveld, a professor of military history at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, pointed out that "collective deportation" was Israel's only meaningful strategy towards the Palestinian people.

"The Palestinians should all be deported. The people who strive for this (the Israeli government) are waiting only for the right man and the right time. Two years ago, only 7 or 8 per cent of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best solution, two months ago it was 33 per cent, and now, according to a Gallup poll, the figure is 44 percent."

Creveld said he was sure that Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon wanted to deport the Palestinians. "I think it's quite possible that he wants to do that. He wants to escalate
the conflict. He knows that nothing else we do will succeed."

Asked if he was worried about Israel becoming a rogue state if it carried out a genocidal deportation against Palestinians, Creveld quoted former Israeli Defense Minister Moshe Dayan who said <font color="red"> "Israel must be like a mad dog, too dangerous to bother." <!--color-->[/color]

Creveld argued that Israel wouldn't care much about becoming a rogue state.

"Our armed forces are not the thirtieth strongest in the world, but rather
the second or third. We have the capability to take the world down with us.
And I can assure you that that this will happen before Israel goes under."

[mutant]

Its also interesting to note how the Israelis their pals, the Americans, act as if they are doing a big favour by not killing, massacring deporting the Palestinians. They say things like "Do you want Naqba 2 ???". The Palestininas have the right to live if the Israelis kill them, they are committing a crime. But see how the want to act as if they are doing a big favour for not killing the Palestinians.





And guess what?. These people are the messiahs of peace!!!.





Who can put it more accurately beautifully than the Qur'an???



"And when it is said unto them: Make not mischief in the earth, they say: We are peacemakers only."



Surah Al Baqarah, verse 11

[shahada]

You know something:

I am starting to believe that the Zionists have used "Black Magic" to controll the western. coz I cannot unerstand why they are blindly supporting them.

[old_n_grumpy]

It's interesting that the Israelis supposedly have hundreds of nuclear weapons yet they have not become the bully they could be if they so desired. On the other hand, Saddam has tried to be the local bully and he doesn't even have nuclear weapons. Imagine the Middle East if Saddam was nuclear capable. He'd control the region's oil for sure.

[shahada]

grumpy:

Israelies are more intellegent in their bullying than Sadam Hussain.

They inject you with their venom mixed with anesthetic so that you dont know that you no longer capable of making your own decisions, or even if you know you are already sedative such that you no longer care.

[mutant]

<i>It's interesting that the Israelis supposedly have hundreds of nuclear weapons yet they have not become the bully they could be if they so desired.</i>

Israell?!?? Not a bully???. whaa?!? who!!. Where am I ???

[choma_cha_nkola]

grampy,
I am trying very hard to find a reason to respect you and your posts, but you will have to agree with me that you do not make any easier for me . Where do you live ? In the Mars or what ? Don't you see at all how IsraHel is Bulldozing houses day in day out ? Don#8217;t you have enough senses to realize how IsraHel terrorize Lebanon every day and night by flying fighters in their airspace ? Don#8217;t you have ears to listen to even pro-IsraHel media about the atrocities they commit on almost hourly basis ? And you say IsraHel is not bullying. Do you want IsraHel to use their nukes to realize that they bully others ?

You are so blind and deaf to say the least.

[shahada]

choma:

What can you expect from somebody who have been administered with a sedative venom?

Maybe this will wake him up:



<font color="red"> <b> List of Security Council Resolutions Violated by Israel </b><!--color-->[/color]

<font color="blue"> Security Council Resolution 242 - 1967 <!--color-->[/color]
Generally accepted by the international community as the primary legal basis for a negotiated settlement of the Israeli-Palestinian question, this resolution calls on Israel to relinquish control of territories occupied in the war of 1967.

<font color="blue"> Security Council Resolution 338 - 1973
<!--color-->[/color] Calls on all parties to abide by Resolution 242.
Security Council Resolution 1397 (March 12, 2002)
Affirming a vision of the Middle East as a region “where two States, Israel and Palestine, live side by side within secure and recognized borders,” the Security Council calls for an end to the violence and for a return to the negotiating table.

<font color="blue"> Security Council Resolution 1402 (March 30, 2002)
<!--color-->[/color] Calling for the withdrawal of Israeli troops from Ramallah and other Palestinian cities, the Council passed a resolution drafted by Norway which was adopted with 14-0 vote. Syria abstained to protest that the resolution was not stronger in condemning Israel.

<font color="blue"> Security Council Resolution 1403 (April 4, 2002)
<!--color-->[/color] The Council demands the implementation of Resolution 1402 (2002)

<font color="blue"> Security Council Resolution 1405 (April 19, 2002)
<!--color-->[/color] The Council calls for the lifting of restrictions imposed on the operations of humanitarian organizations and welcomes the fact-finding team appointed by UN Secretary General Kofi Annan to investigate recent events in the Jenin refugee camp.

<font color="red"><b> List of General Assembly Resolutions violated by Israel </b> <!--color-->[/color]

<font color="blue"> General Assembly Resolution 194 - 1948
<!--color-->[/color] Calls on Israel to respect the right of return of Palestinian refugees.

<font color="blue"> General Assembly Resolution 181 - 1947
<!--color-->[/color] The partition of Palestine into Jewish and Arab states, and the internationalization of Jerusalem.

<font color="blue"> General Assembly Resolution ES-10/8 - 2001
<!--color-->[/color] The General Assembly adopted a resolution on illegal Israeli actions in Occupied East Jerusalem and the rest of the Occupied Palestinian Territory. The resolution calls on Israel and Palestine to implement the recommendations of the Mitchell Report

[MoonBeam]

"List of Security Council Resolutions Violated by Israel"

Is it not apparent to all the Security Council Resolutions are an absolute joke? The UN as an organization is a joke. Iraq and Israel have been making an ass out of the UN for years and all the UN does is pass more resolutions.

[mutant]

hahahahahah. Look at this guy moonbeam. He only wants to talk about Iraq Iran. Atleast if those countries vioolate norms, the whole world seems to be criticising them. But if Israel America do the same, no one even opens their mouth. The UN dies a long time ago, but not at the hands of Muslims, it died at the hands of the zionist guess what, it didn't even know!!!.

[old_n_grumpy]

This story is sourced from the IAP, which I assumed was the International Associated Press. The IAP is actually the Islamic Association for Palestine. That explains why I can't find the story on any mainstream sites. Very questionable stuff indeed.

[old_n_grumpy]

choma_cha_nkola,
I merely observed that, if Israel is indeed a nuclear power, it isn't really making much of an effort to throw its weight around compared to what it could do if it wanted to.

[hfsc_peace]

When acceptance of Israel is manifest, when desire to REVERSE 1948 is gone, when peace is not just a waystation on the path to this end, THEN UN resolution 242 will come into reality. The repeated statements of the PLA, HAMAS, Islamic Jihad, polls of palestinians and arabs, and nation states surrounding Israel all make this CLEAR. WANT THE LINKS?

<b>Until then, there is almost NOTHING to discuss..maybe the SIZE OF THE WALL AROUND THE WEST BANK</b>

[mutant]

Oh yeah pal???. Does anyone want to hear what the Israelis (Ariel Sharon gang) have been saying???. If anyone does, please do let me know.

[MoonBeam]

Mutie little pal,

I want to know. Please tell.

[mutant]

OK Pal singhji, here I comeji

[mutant]

The Crimes
of Ariel Sharon
Some incorrigible optimists have suggested that only a right-wing extremist of the notoriety of Likud leader Ariel Sharon will have the credentials to broker any sort of lasting settlement with the Palestinians. Maybe so. History is not devoid of such examples. But Sharon?

Sharon's history offers a monochromatic record of moral corruption, with a documented record of war crimes going back to the early 1950s. He was born in 1928 and as a young man joined the Haganah, the underground military organization of Israel in its pre-state days. In 1953 he
was given command of Unit 101, whose mission is often described as that of retaliation against Arab attacks on Jewish villages. In fact, as can be seen from two terrible onslaughts, one of them very well known, Unit 101's purpose was that of instilling terror by the infliction of discriminate, murderous violence not only on able bodied fighters but on the young, the old, the helpless.

Sharon's first documented sortie in this role was in August of 1953 on the refugee camp of El-Bureig, south of Gaza. An Israeli history of the 101 unit records 50 refugees as having been killed; other sources allege 15 or 20. Major-General Vagn Bennike, the UN commander, reported that "bombs were thrown" by Sharon's men "through the windows of huts in which the refugees were sleeping and, as they fled, they were attacked by small arms and automatic weapons".

In October of 1953 came the attack by Sharon's unit 101 on the Jordanian village of Qibya, whose "stain" Israel's foreign minister at the time, Moshe Sharett, confided to his diary "would stick to us and not be washed away for many years". He was wrong. Though even strongly pro-Israel commentators in the West compared it to Lidice, Qibya and Sharon's role are scarcely evoked in the West today, least of all by journalists such as Deborah Sontag of the New York Times who recently wrote a whitewash of Sharon, describing him as "feisty", or the
Washington Post's man in Jerusalem who fondly invoked him after his fateful excursion to the Holy Places in Jerusalem as "the portly old warrior".

Israeli historian Avi Shlaim describes the massacre thus: "Sharon's order was to penetrate Qibya, blow up houses and inflict heavy casualties on its inhabitants. His success in carrying out the order surpassed all expectations. The full and macabre story of what happened at Qibya was
revealed only during the morning after the attack. The village had been reduced to rubble: forty-five houses had been blown up, and sixty-nine civilians, two thirds of them women and children, had been killed. Sharon and his men claimed that they believed that all the inhabitants had run away and that they had no idea that anyone was hiding inside the houses."

The UN observer on the scene reached a different conclusion: "One story was repeated time after time: the bullet splintered door, the body sprawled across the threshhold, indicating that the inhabitants had been forced by heavy fire to stay inside until their homes were blown up over them." The slaughter in Qibya was described contemporaneously in a letter to the president of the United Nations Security Council dated 16 October 1953 (S/3113) from the Envoy Extraordinary and Minister Plenipotentiary of Jordan to the United States. On 14 October 1953 at 9:30 at night, he wrote, Israeli troops launched a battalion-scale attack on the village of Qibya in the Hashemite Kingdom of Jordan (at the time the West Bank was annexed to Jordan).

According to the diplomat's account, Israeli forces had entered the village and systematically murdered all occupants of houses, using automatic weapons, grenades and incendiaries. On 14 October, the bodies of 42 Arab civilians had been recovered; several more bodies were still under the wreckage. Forty houses, the village school and a reservoir had been destroyed. Quantities of unused explosives, bearing Israel army markings in Hebrew, had been found in the village. At about 3 a.m., to cover their withdrawal, Israeli support troops had begun shelling the
neighbouring villages of Budrus and Shuqba from positions in Israel.

And what of Sharon's conduct when he was head of the Southern Command of Israel's Defense Forces in the early 1970s? The Gaza "clearances" were vividly described by Phil Reeves in a piece in The London Independent on January 21 of this year.

"Thirty years have elapsed since Ariel Sharon, favourite to win Israel's forthcoming election, was the head of the Israel Defence Forces' southern command, charged with the task of 'pacifying' the recalcitrant Gaza Strip after the 1967 war. But the old men still remember it well. Especially the old men on Wreckage Street. Until late 1970, Wreckage, or Had'd, Street wasn't a street, just one of scores of narrow, nameless alleys weaving through Gaza City's Beach Camp, a shantytown cluttered with low, two-roomed houses, built with UN aid for refugees from the 1948 war who then, as now, were waiting for the international community to settle their future. The street acquired its name after an unusually prolonged visit from Mr Sharon's soldiers. Their orders were to bulldoze hundreds of homes to carve a wide, straight street. This would allow Israeli troops and their heavy armored vehicles to move easily through the camp, to exert control and hunt down men from the Palestinian Liberation Army.

"'They came at night and began marking the houses they wanted to demolish with red paint,' said Ibrahim Ghanim, 70, a retired labourer. 'In the morning they came back, and ordered everyone to leave. I remember all the soldiers shouting at people, Yalla, yalla, yalla, yalla! They threw everyone's belongings into the street. Then Sharon brought in bulldozers and started flattening the street. He did the whole lot, almost in one day. And the soldiers would beat people, can you imagine? Soldiers with guns, beating little kids!' By the time the Israeli army's work was done, hundreds of homes were destroyed, not only on Wreckage Street but throughout the camp, as Sharon ploughed out a grid of wide security roads. Many of the refugees took shelter in schools, or squeezed into the already badly over-crowded homes of relatives. Other families, usually those with a Palestinian political activist, were loaded into trucks and taken to exile in a town in the heart of the Sinai Desert, then controlled by Israel."

As Reeves reported, the devastation of Beach Camp was far from the exception. "In August 1971 alone, troops under Mr Sharon's command destroyed some 2,000 homes in the Gaza Strip, uprooting 16,000 people for the second time in their lives. Hundreds of young Palestinian men were arrested and deported to Jordan and Lebanon. Six hundred relatives of suspected guerrillas were exiled to Sinai. In the second half of 1971, 104 guerrillas were assassinated. 'The policy at that time was not to arrest suspects, but to assassinate them', said Raji Sourani, director of the Palestinian Centre for Human Rights in Gaza City".

Israeli complacency leading to their initial defeat by the Egyptians in the 1973 war was in part nurtured by the supposed impregnability of the "Bar Lev line" constructed by Sharon on the east bank of the Suez canal. The Egyptians pierced the line without undue difficulty.

In 1981 Sharon, then minister of defense, paid a visit to Israel's good friend, President Mobutu of Zaire. Lunching on Mobutu's yacht the Israeli party was asked by their host to use their good offices to get the US Congress to be more forthcoming with aid. This the Israelis managed to accomplish. As a quid pro quo Mobutu reestablished diplomatic relations with Israel. This was not Sharon's only contact with Africa. Among friends he relays fond memories of trips to Angola to observe and advise the South African forces then fighting in support of the murderous CIA stooge Jonas Savimbi.

As defense minister in Menachem Begin's second government, Sharon was the commander who led the full dress 1982 assault on Lebanon, with the express design of destroying the PLO, driving as many Palestinians as possible to Jordan and making Lebanon a client state of Israel. It was a war plan that cost untold suffering, around 20,000 Palestinian and Lebanese lives, and also the deaths of over one thousand Israeli soldiers. The Israelis bombed civilian populations at will. Sharon also oversaw the infamous massacres at Sabra and Shatilla refugee camps. The Lebanese government counted 762 bodies recovered and a further 1,200 buried privately by relatives. However, the Middle East may have been spared worse, thanks to Menachem Begin. Just as the '82 war was getting under way, Sharon approached Begin, then Prime Minister, and suggested that Begin cede control over Israel's nuclear trigger to him. Begin had just enough sense to refuse.

The slaughter in the two contiguous camps at Sabra and Shatilla took place from 6:00 at night on September 16, 1982 until 8:00 in the morning on September 18, 1982, in an area under the control of the Israel Defense Forces. The perpetrators were members of the Phalange militia, the Lebanese force that was armed by and closely allied with Israel since the onset of Lebanon's civil war in 1975. The victims during the 62-hour rampage included infants, children, women (including pregnant women), and the elderly, some of whom were mutilated or disemboweled before or after they were killed.

An official Israeli commission of inquiry - chaired by Yitzhak Kahan, president of Israel's Supreme Court - investigated the massacre, and in February 1983 publicly released its findings (without Appendix B, which remains secret until now).

Amid desperate attempts to cover up the evidence of direct knowledge of what was going on by Israeli military personnel, the Kahan Commission found itself compelled to find that Ariel Sharon, among other Israelis, had responsibility for the massacre. The commission's report stated: "It is our view that responsibility is to be imputed to the Minister of Defense for having disregarded ["entirely cognizant of" would have been a better choice of words] the danger of acts of vengeance and bloodshed by the Phalangists against the population of the refugee camps, and having failed [i.e."eagerly taken this into consideration"] to take this danger into account when he decided to have the Phalangists enter the camps. In addition, responsibility is to be imputed to the Minister of Defense for not ordering appropriate measures for preventing or reducing the danger of massacre as a condition for the Phalangists' entry into the camps. These blunders constitute the
non-fulfillment of a duty with which the Defense Minister was charged". (For those who want to refresh their memories of Operation Peace for Galilee, of the massacres and the Kahan coverup we recommend Noam Chomsky's The Fateful Triangle.)

Sharon refused to resign. Finally, on February 14, 1983, he was relieved of his duties as defense minister, though he remained in the cabinet as minister without portfolio.

Sharon's career was in eclipse, but he continued to burnish his credentials as a Likud ultra. Sharon has always been against any sort of peace deal, unless on terms entirely impossible for Palestinians to accept. As Nehemia Strasler outlined in Ha'aretz on January 18 of this year, in 1979, as a member of Begin's cabinet, he voted against a peace treaty with Egypt. In 1985 he voted against the withdrawal of Israeli troops to the
so-called security zone in Southern Lebanon. In 1991 he opposed Israel's participation in the Madrid peace conference. In 1993 he voted No in the Knesset on the Oslo agreement. The following year he abstained in the Knesset on a vote over a peace treaty with Jordan. He voted against the Hebron agreement in 1997 and objected to the way in which the withdrawal from southern Lebanon was conducted.

As Begin's minister of agriculture in the late 1970s he established many of the West Bank settlements that are now a major obstruction to any peace deal. His present position? Not another square inch of land for Palestinians on the West Bank. He will agree to a Palestinian state on the existing areas presently under either total or partial Palestinian control, amounting to merely 42 per cent of the West Bank. Israel will retain control of the highways across the West Bank and the water sources. All settlements will stay in place with access by the IDF to them. Jerusalem will remain under Israeli sovereignty and he plans to continue building around the city. The Golan heights would remain under Israel's control.

It can be strongly argued that Sharon represents the long-term policy of all Israeli governments, without any obscuring fluff or verbal embroidery. For example: Ben-Gurion approved the terror missions of Unit 101. Every Israeli government has condoned settlements and
building around Jerusalem. It was Labor's Ehud Barak who okayed the military escort for Sharon on his provocative sortie that sparked the second Intifada and Barak who has overseen the lethal military repression of recent months. But that doesn't diminish Sharon's sinister shadow across the past half century. That shadow is better evoked by Palestinians and Lebanese grieving for the dead, the maimed, the displaced, or by
a young Israeli woman, Ilil Komey, 16, who confronted Sharon recently when he visited her agricultural high school outside Beersheva. "I think you sent my father into Lebanon", Ilil said. "Ariel Sharon, I accuse you of having made me suffer for 16 some odd years. I accuse you of having made my father suffer for over 16 years. I accuse you of a lot of things that made a lot of people suffer in this country. I don't think that you can now be elected as prime minister".

Ilil was wrong. He's there. And now the bloodbath will begin.

[mutant]

So, Sharon regrets he didn't kill the Palestinan leader. If this is not provocation,. then what is. If I say I want to kill Bush, how would you feel???. Happy?.

Sharon regrets sparing Arafat


Sharon blames Arafat for the upsurge in violence

Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon says he regrets not having killed Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat in Lebanon 20 years ago.
He made the comments in excerpts of an interview with the Israeli newspaper Maariv, which is to be published in full on Friday.



In principle, I'm sorry that we didn't liquidate him

Ariel Sharon
Mr Sharon was Israeli defence minister at the time Israeli troops invaded Lebanon in 1982 in an attempt to drive Mr Arafat's Palestine Liberation Organisation out of Lebanon.

The comments come as Mr Arafat remains under virtual house arrest inside his headquarters in the West Bank town of Ramallah and as Israel debates cultivating an alternative Palestinian leadership.

In his interview, however, Mr Sharon said the Palestinian leader could still be his negotiating partner if he arrested Palestinian militants Israel blames for organising attacks against it.

The Israeli prime minister's comments drew criticism from Palestinian spokesman Saeb Erekat, who said Mr Sharon was now trying to finish what he started in 1982.

"For prime ministers to announce openly their gangster intention is a reflection of what kind of government we're dealing with."

Spanish Foreign Minister Josep Pique, whose country currently holds the rotating EU presidency, also criticised Mr Sharon's remarks, saying they "warrant rejection".

Sharon's regret

In the summer of 1982, the Israeli army launched a massive military incursion into Lebanon.

Operation "Peace for Galilee" was intended to wipe out Palestinian guerrilla bases near Israel's northern border - but as defence minister, Ariel Sharon pushed all the way to Beirut and expelled the PLO from the country.

"In Lebanon, there was an agreement not to liquidate Yasser Arafat," Mr Sharon said.



Yasser Arafat in Beirut in 1982

"In principle, I'm sorry that we didn't liquidate him."

But the prime minister also said he was still prepared to talk to Mr Arafat.

"If Arafat will take all the steps that we are demanding from him, for me he will return to be a partner in negotiations," Mr Sharon said.

And Israeli spokesman Raanan Gissin told the BBC that Mr Sharon's comments belonged in the past - if the Palestinian leader died, it would be "by the hands of Allah or Abdullah" - in other words, God or fellow Arabs.

Israel says Mr Arafat will remain isolated until he arrests the militants Israel says were behind the killing of Tourism Minister Rehavam Ze'evi last October.

'Jail'

In a previous interview with Maariv, Mr Sharon said Mr Arafat was being blockaded in Ramallah to keep him from doing "harm".



If Arafat will take all the steps that we are demanding from him, for me he will return to be a partner in negotiations

Ariel Sharon
"It is preferable that Arafat stays locked in Ramallah instead of being expelled from the territories as he could cause more harm outside," he said.

Thousands of Palestinians demonstrated across the occupied territories early this month to demand Mr Arafat's release.

There has been an upsurge in violence recently with Palestinian suicide bombers attacking Israeli targets and the Israeli army responding with incursions inside Palestinian-controlled territories.

In the latest violence on Thursday, Israeli troops shot dead two Palestinian militants after they allegedly detonated a bomb on a road inside a Jewish settlement in the Gush Katif area of the Gaza Strip.

[mutant]

The leaders of the Zionist Movement and the Zionist State speak clearly about their objectives. How can the world ignore their own words?



"I don't know something called International Principles. I vow that I'll

burn every Palestinian child (that) will be born in this area. The

Palestinian woman and child is more dangerous than the man, because the

Palestinian childs existence infers that generations will go on, but the man

causes limited danger. I vow that if I was just an Israeli civilian and I

met a Palestinian I would burn him and I would make him suffer before

killing him. With one hit I've killed 750 Palestinians (in Rafah in 1956). I

wanted to encourage my soldiers by raping Arabic girls as the Palestinian

women is a slave for Jews, and we do whatever we want to her and nobody

tells us what we shall do but we tell others what they shall do."



[Ariel Sharon, current Prime Minister, In an interview with General Ouze

Merham, 1956]







1. "There is a huge gap between us (Jews) and our enemies *not just in

ability but in morality, culture, sanctity of life, and conscience. They are

our neighbors here, but it seems as if at a distance of a few hundred meters

away, there are people who do not belong to our continent, to our world, but

actually belong to a different galaxy." Israeli president Moshe Katsav. The

Jerusalem Post, May 10, 2001







2. "The Palestinians are like crocodiles, the more you give them meat,

they want more".... Ehud Barak, Prime Minister of Israel at the time -

August 28, 2000. Reported in the Jerusalem Post August 30, 2000







3. " [The Palestinians are] beasts walking on two legs." Menahim Begin,

speech to the Knesset, quoted in Amnon Kapeliouk, "Begin and the Beasts".

New Statesman, 25 June 1982.







4. "The Palestinians" would be crushed like grasshoppers ... heads smashed

against the boulders and walls." " Isreali Prime Minister (at the time) in a

speech to Jewish settlers New York Times April 1, 1988







5. "When we have settled the land, all the Arabs will be able to do about

it will be to scurry around like drugged cockroaches in a bottle." Raphael

Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defence Forces, New York Times, 14

April 1983.







6. "How can we return the occupied territories? There is nobody to return

them to." Golda Meir, March 8, 1969.







7. "There was no such thing as Palestinians, they never existed." Golda

Maier Israeli Prime Minister June 15, 1969







8. "The thesis that the danger of genocide was hanging over us in June

1967 and that Israel was fighting for its physical existence is only bluff,

which was born and developed after the war." Israeli General Matityahu

Peled, Ha'aretz, 19 March 1972.







9. David Ben Gurion (the first Israeli Prime Minister): "If I were an Arab

leader, I would never sign an agreement with Israel. It is normal; we have

taken their country. It is true God promised it to us, but how could that

interest them? Our God is not theirs. There has been Anti - Semitism, the

Nazis, Hitler, Auschwitz, but was that their fault ? They see but one thing:

we have come and we have stolen their country. Why would they accept that?"

Quoted by Nahum Goldmann in Le Paraddoxe Juif (The Jewish Paradox), pp121.







9a. Ben Gurion also warned in 1948 : "We must do everything to insure they

( the Palestinians) never do return." Assuring his fellow Zionists that

Palestinians will never come back to their homes. "The old will die and the

young will forget."



10. "We have to kill all the Palestinians unless they are resigned to live

here as slaves." Chairman Heilbrun of the Committee for the Re-election of

General Shlomo Lahat, the mayor of Tel Aviv, October 1983.







11. "Every time we do something you tell me America will do this and will

do that . . . I want to tell you something very clear: Don't worry about

American pressure on Israel. We, the Jewish people, control America, and the

Americans know it." - Israeli Prime Minister, Ariel Sharon, October 3, 2001,

to Shimon Peres, as reported on Kol Yisrael radio.







12. "We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one

centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand.

We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us

on all fours." Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces -

Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot 13 April 1983, New York Times 14 April 1983.







13. "We must do everything to ensure they [the Palestinian refugees] never

do return" David Ben-Gurion, in his diary, 18 July 1948, quoted in Michael

Bar Zohar's Ben-Gurion: the Armed Prophet, Prentice-Hall, 1967, p. 157.







15. "We should prepare to go over to the offensive. Our aim is to smash

Lebanon, Trans-Jordan, and Syria. The weak point is Lebanon, for the Moslem

regime is artificial and easy for us to undermine. We shall establish a

Christian state there, and then we will smash the Arab Legion, eliminate

Trans-Jordan; Syria will fall to us. We then bomb and move on and take Port

Said, Alexandria and Sinai." David Ben-Gurion, May 1948, to the General

Staff. From Ben-Gurion, A Biography, by Michael Ben-Zohar, Delacorte, New

York 1978.







16. "We must use terror, assassination, intimidation, land confiscation,

and the cutting of all social services to rid the Galilee of its Arab

population." Israel Koenig, "The Koenig Memorandum"







17. "Jewish villages were built in the place of Arab villages. You do not

even know the names of these Arab villages, and I do not blame you because

geography books no longer exist. Not only do the books not exist, the Arab

villages are not there either. Nahlal arose in the place of Mahlul; Kibbutz

Gvat in the place of Jibta; Kibbutz Sarid in the place of Huneifis; and

Kefar Yehushua in the place of Tal al-Shuman. There is not a single place

built in this country that did not have a former Arab population." Moshe

Dayan, address to the Technion, Haifa, reported in Haaretz, April 4, 1969.



18. "We walked outside, Ben-Gurion accompanying us. Allon repeated his

question, What is to be done with the Palestinian population?' Ben-Gurion

waved his hand in a gesture which said 'Drive them out!'" Yitzhak Rabin,

leaked censored version of Rabin memoirs, published in the New York Times,

23 October 1979.







19. Rabin's description of the conquest of Lydda, after the completion of

Plan Dalet. "We shall reduce the Arab population to a community of

woodcutters and waiters" Uri Lubrani, PM Ben-Gurion's special adviser on

Arab Affairs, 1960. From "The Arabs in Israel" by Sabri Jiryas.







20. "There are some who believe that the non-Jewish population, even in a

high percentage, within our borders will be more effectively under our

surveillance; and there are some who believe the contrary, i.e., that it is

easier to carry out surveillance over the activities of a neighbor than over

those of a tenant. [I] tend to support the latter view and have an

additional argument:...the need to sustain the character of the state which

will henceforth be Jewish...with a non-Jewish minority limited to 15

percent. I had already reached this fundamental position as early as 1940

[and] it is entered in my diary." Joseph Weitz, head of the Jewish Agency's

Colonization Department. From Israel: an Apartheid State by Uri Davis, p.5.







21. "Everybody has to move, run and grab as many hilltops as they can to

enlarge the settlements because everything we take now will stay ours...

Everything we don't grab will go to them." Ariel Sharon, Israeli Foreign

Minister, addressing a meeting of militants from the extreme right-wing

Tsomet Party, Agence France Presse, November 15, 1998.







22. "It is the duty of Israeli leaders to explain to public opinion,

clearly and courageously, a certain number of facts that are forgotten with

time. The first of these is that there is no Zionism,colonialization or

Jewish State without the eviction of the Arabs and the expropriation of

their lands." Yoram Bar Porath, Yediot Aahronot, of 14 July 1972.







23. "Spirit the penniless population across the frontier by denying it

employment... Both the process of expropriation and the removal of the poor

must be carried out discreetly and circumspectly." Theodore Herzl, founder

of the World Zionist Organization, speaking of the Arabs of

Palestine,Complete Diaries, June 12, 1895 entry.

[WT_Sherman]

an Israel which will not go away.

Even if all these quotes ar true, and I have alredy seen rebutted cleanly several 'attributed' to Sharon, so what?

Is Arafat Ghandi?

Only enemies make peace.

[shahada]

- RAMBo from USA comes in to the Middle East.
- Save us all from the non democratic systems
- We all vote OBL to become our new leader
- OBL leads xxxxx Million Muslims towards Palistine --&gt; USA


End of Story.

There is nothing more needs to be said.

[mutant]

<i>Even if all these quotes ar true, and I have alredy seen rebutted cleanly several 'attributed' to Sharon, so what?</i>

See how shameless this guy is!!!. He claims to be a great humanist, but sympathizes with the devil.

What this guy is saying is that "OK, you have been wronged. But we are the big guys you will simply obey what we tell you". Its a big shame on these people really.

[shahada]

The issue is not Sharon.

The issue is about Zionists and corrupted jews who cannot leave without sucking the resources of other nations, like paracites. They were kicked out from Europe and Hitler killed them and the Americans are protecting them so that they dont flee to USA home land, they learned the lessons in the "Franklin Prophecy" and William Shekspear's famous play "Merchant of Venice".

It is only us who did not learn the lesson and kept them leaving between us until they took over Palistine.

But things are changing in the Middle East:

- Our governments are admitting about their stratigic mistakes in making unconditional partnerships with the West
- A very strong movement of reformation is progressing steadily throughout the Middle East
- National Soliderity towards core geopolitical issues is gaining momentum and strength day by day
- People are starting to become organized, like Al Qaeda, Hamas, Jihad, Muslim Brotherhood, etc...
- International support for our geopolitical issues is increasing: France, Germany, Russia, China, Belgium, etc...
- Unity between the different sectors is increasing day by and we forget our differences to face the forthecoming threats from outside
- Most important of all, people are starting to reembrace the values of Islam, especially those which address political and economical issues.

With time I can assure you that the Middle East will be changing the face of International Politics and neutrolise the injustice committed by the USA and its alliese.