Something concrete like:Originally Posted by Alhamask
a) God coming down and saying he wrote the Quran
b) Something completely non-obvious and unknown at the time, like a mention of DNA, the double helix, hubble's constant, planck constant, etc.
See aboveOriginally Posted by Alhamask
See above. As far as my belief in God, I do believe there is a God. But I don't claim that my faith is logical. I'm also a Hindu so "our" holy book is the Bhagavad Gita, which I look upon as a wonderful philosophical treatise on how to live your life, but I don't believe that it was sent down from God.Originally Posted by Alhamask
Oh yes, I'm just a stupid unbeliever, right? It's funny that you call it a "foolish argument". Arguing logically is a pretty simple concept. Even people thousands of years ago, like the Greeks knew about it. The issue is not about "believing" a verse from the Quran. I'm sorry if you can't understand a simple concept like "logic". You can't prove something is the word of God by using a self-referential or circular argument.Originally Posted by Antar
I'm quite secure in my faith and I completely accept that it cannot be proven logically. You seem to be the one who is insecure in your faith because you want to go to great lengths to "prove" the divinse source of the Quran through logic. If you want to do that, then you have to play by the rules.Originally Posted by sysexpert